Sky Ships Over Cashiers


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Editor’s Corner

Mary Joyce, website editor

Here is a list of topics
in this section of the website. Just scroll down to what might be of interest to you.

         1)  Announcements or comments
         2)  Our website YouTube channel
         3)  YouTube videos of some of my presentations
         4)  Podcasts of some of my radio show interviews
         5)  Information about my three most recent books
         6)  My brief bio


Thanks primarily to sources with Above Top-Secret security clearance, we’ve posted five articles since the beginning of 2018 that are truly newsworthy.  You can find them in the “Undercover Operations” section of the website

  1. Whistleblower: Missiles caused Alaska quake
  2. Hawaii Missile Alert: Explosion seen over ocean
  3. Hawaii Missile Alert: Happened in Japan too
  4. Hawaii Missile Alert: More than a button to send it
  5. Hawaii Missile Alert: The Cabal may have launched missiles

The archives in “Undercover Operations” and the “Deep Throat Testimonies” section also provide information you’re not likely to find elsewhere.



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Mysterious Outpost TV – Michael, the host of the show, and I covered many topics on November 22, 2017 including: the night UFOs filled the sky over Sylva, NC; Cabal secrets told by a man with Cosmic Top Security clearance; military and alien abductions and mind control; a man’s account of spacecraft beneath Edwards AFB and his conversations with Buzz Aldrin and Henry Kissinger about aliens on the Moon.

mary Other realities in Jackson County, NC – This is a lecture I gave to a hometown audience at the Jackson County Public Library in Sylva, NC on October 19, 2017 about Bigfoot, Cherokee Little People, UFOs and secret underground bases in Jackson County.



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UFOs and Apparitions – Witness testimony by Glynis Heenan
Those who are familiar with our website, know Glynis Heenan has provided us with photos of many different kinds of UFOs that have appeared over the mountaintop community of Cashiers, NC.  It’s not well known that on occasion she has seen remarkable apparitions.

In this video, she tells about a man in a maroon spacesuit momentarily appearing in her home and later in her home beauty salon.  Not long after that, she saw a UFO in the sky just east of her house, followed by a giant apparition of Jesus in the tall trees in her yard.
We’d like to thank Vickie McMahan, our Facebook manager, for videotaping Glynis as she
talked about those experiences.  We’d also like to again thank Cindy Carter for transforming the two exclusive audio interviews below into visual experiences too.


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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW – This is the first time Robert of Ohio talks publicly about his venture into a vast and secret underground facility beneath Edwards Air Force Base in California.  It drastically changed his life.  After that, he had unexpected and revelatory conversations with Astronaut Buzz Aldrin and Henry Kissinger who at that time was National Security Advisor for the Nixon administration.


EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - This is a true story of two kids who grew up on Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio and got their hands on some magical metal from the UFO that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.

They didn’t just see or touch the metal; they tested the magical metal in many inventive ways.  What they discovered has been their secret since 1957.  Now, 59 years later, “Jill” has decided it’s safe to share the most memorable adventure of her life.

CRYSTAL KIDS TV - Though this show is for young people, it is not lightweight entertainment.  The creator and host, Natalie-Marie Hart, has been delving into topics of global concern on her own radio show since she was 11 years old. By the time she was 13, which was in 2014, she started her own Internet TV program on the Conscious Consumer Network (CCN). The young Canadian writes, edits and produces her shows.

In preparing for this interview, Natalie-Marie spent a week studying the Sky Ships over Cashiers website. As a result, this January 26, 2016 interview touched on at least 20 different subjects. Young people should be encouraged to watch this interview because it demonstrates how just one young person can impact the world.

Australian interview – Thanks to Skype, I was interviewed on July 23, 2015 by Australian Peter Maxwell Slattery (R) about a variety of topics.  We started with postings from the Global Links section of this website and then moved on to secret underground military bases, UFOs, our latest Bigfoot investigation, a hologram of Jesus and the Jesus family burial tomb.

Tangible evidence of Jesus – I gave this lecture at City Lights Bookstore in Sylva, NC on December 7, 2014.  The 38:19 video was taped by Beck Horne.

Cherokee Little People Were Real –This presentation was given at the Henderson County Heritage Museum in Hendersonville, NC on November 8, 2014.  The 38:12 minute video was taped by the museum.

Skyfishing for UFOs in Western North Carolina – This 2:08 minute video is about one method of catching UFOs with your camera.  It was produced by Beck Horne.

Mary Joyce on the base at Pisgah – In this video, I talk about a secret underground military facility beneath the Balsam Ridge in Western North Carolina. It was taped in 2010 at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada by Miles Johnson, a documentary filmmaker from Great Britain. This is version two because the first one mysteriously disappeared from the Internet. 

Sky Ships and Cosmic Spirituality – This is an hour long presentation Evelyn Gordon and I made at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada in 2010.  It is the largest UFO conference in the world.

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The Scott Helmer Show - I was a guest on this show on August 8, 2017 with this high-energy host who is best known as a seasoned entertainer with more than 1,000 concerts under his belt.  He also has opened for performers such as Jeff Bridges, Eric Burdon & The Animals, 3 Doors Down, Eddie Money and Heart.  More importantly, since 2012 he has helped raise more than $2 million for a wide range of good causes.

Scott introduced me about 18 minutes into the show.  We covered many topics starting with my first UFO sightings in Florida, some of my interactions with NASA folks, and new Cabal information that a high-ranking whistleblower recently shared with me.



I was on “Caravan to Midnight” on August 2, 2017 with host John B. Wells. We talked about many subjects including recent CABAL information from a whistleblower with Cosmic Top-Secret security clearance, ISIS in America, secret underground facilities, contemporary structures on Mars and my book “Tangible Evidence of Jesus” which lead us into a philosophical discussion about the state of the world.  Subscribers of the popular show can listen to the program at


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The Dwight Lilly Show – On July 18, 2017, Dwight began his show with a monologue about nuclear storage in a quake zone near Yucca Mountain. Then he cautioned listeners about “confirmation bias” and the dangerous mixture of truth and disinformation on well known Internet sites.
At the 7:18 minute mark, he introduces me and around the 11:25 mark we begin talking about how top secret stories about underground bases have come my way.  Five minutes later, I talk about information from a whistleblower with Cosmic Top-Secret security clearance regarding the Cabal and its relationship with a species of ETs.  The conversation continues from there.


The night of July 4th, I was on “Coast to Coast AM” with George Noory for hours three and four of the show. George is a very relaxed host so our conversation flowed in and out of many subjects from the website and from my books. The fourth hour primarily focused on my book “Tangible evidence of Jesus.”  He even questioned me about the true nature of the Resurrection and the possibility of Jesus being an extraterrestrial. For those who may not know about the show, it is the most listened to overnight radio program in North America.  “Coast Insiders” can listen to the show at

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Willy Hassell and Lynne Nickerson host “Spirit Radio – The Paranormal Experience”
on WSCA 106.1 FM radio in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

Spirit Radio – The Paranormal Experience – When I was on this show on March 18, 2017, I spoke for the first time about our website story “Men with axes and guns attack Bigfoot.”  Then we moved on to other Bigfoot topics and listened to an audiotape of a Bigfoot talking.  Another major topic was Antarctica and the clandestine activities there.


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Ohio Exopolitics Radio – On February 24, 2017, host Mark Snider and I cruised through a wide array of topics: the legendary city found beneath the Honduran jungle . . . glacial archaeology finds . . . developments in Antarctica . . . the man who was asked to assassinate Martin Luther King . . . new information on the Biblical Exodus . . . Bigfoot . . . exclusive interviews we’ve posted on our website’s YouTube channel . . . and more.

Paranormal Experienced – On February 15, 2017, I was on WCJV radio in Youngstown, NY with host Kat Hobson.  It was a two-hour show so we covered a wide range of topics.  If you already have heard about my background, you might want to start at the 16-minute mark where we begin talking about happenings in Antarctica. Then at approximately 36 minutes, I talk about cosmic miracles for the first time on any radio show.



The Cosmic Switchboard – On January 13, 2017, I was a guest on James Bartley’s show which is based in Australia. He’s very knowledgeable and we covered a lot of topics.  If you’ve heard me talk about Cherokee Little People, you may want to jump to the 5:50 minute mark where I talk about Little People who still live in Eastern Tennessee.  After that we talk about Bigfoot, underground facilities and an Isis camp in North Carolina.


Beyond the Strange – This interview was recorded on November 13, 2016 with host Dave Cruz who is based in Napa Valley, CA.  Because of the length of the show, the starting times for the segments are listed below so you can skip the introduction and commercials.  A few topics talked about in each segment are included.

Segment 1
(5:53) – For the first time on air, I talked about how my interest in secret underground bases and UFOs started. 
Segment 2 (33:30) – The focus was on the different kinds of Little People, plus giants.
Segment 3 (1:03:12) – The theme was secret underground facilities including those beneath the Denver Airport, Dolce, NM and the mountains of North Carolina.
Segment 4 (1:34:40) –I talked about the Jesus family tomb, physical descriptions of Jesus and his travels with his great uncle, Joseph of Arimathea.


The Higherside Chats – The podcast of this San Diego-based radio show was posted on September 6, 2016. The next day I learned the show has an international audience when I began receiving emails from European listeners.

The host, Greg Carlwood, is a knowledgeable host who keeps his shows flowing smoothly. We talked about a variety of subjects.

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Spirit Radio – The Paranormal Experience
– This is a popular program on WSCA 106.1 FM radio based in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.  The two hosts, Lynne and Willy, and I talked about two subjects never before presented on any radio show:
(1) our website’s new video about two kids who secretly tested Roswell UFO material, and
(2) a recently revealed ancient race of Little People who still live in Eastern Tennessee.

After that, I gave an update on our Bigfoot DNA testing; talked about concerns regarding the CERN Hadron Collider; and presented a new witness report about a power plant that may be fueling hidden underground military facilities. The conversation begins at the 5:40 minute mark.


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The Fringe Radio Show
– I was on Salt Lake City’s popular talk radio station (KTKK-630 AM) on April 2, 2016 with host Pat Daniels. We started talking about evidence of life on Mars NOW and then moved on to Bigfoot, hoaxers, underground facilities and aliens.


Far Out Radio
– On March 4, 2016, I was a guest on Scott Teeters’ live radio show out of Lake Placid, Florida.  We covered a variety of topics:  holograms, Project Blue Beam, President Carter’s use of a clairvoyant and the real story of President Lincoln’s birth.

Below are links to two other “Far Out Radio” shows I have been on with Scott.

Far Out Radio - On July 27, 2015, Scott and I talked about my book “Underground Military Bases Hidden in North Carolina Mountains.”  

Far Out Radio
–On May 11, 2015, Scott and I talked about my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real” plus we discussed the sad reality of educational institutions, including the Smithsonian Museum, covering up or denying evidence that doesn’t fit the established view of history. In the last segment of the program we talked about UFOs.


Unknown Origins Radio – This December 3, 2015 show proved to be an interesting three-way conversation with hosts Mark Johnson and Bruce Pearson about multiple topics.  I was introduced 14 minutes into the show and for the next 10 minutes we talked about Islam in light of the San Bernardino massacre that occurred the night before. Then we moved on to discussions about Cherokee Little People and the Sky Ships over Cashiers website. 

Bruce, with his military background and 30 years as an investigative journalist, was especially interested in the second hour of the show when we talked about secret underground military bases.

Ancient Mysteries on the Air - On August 5, 2015, I was on the program with host Jim Harold who has a personal interest in so many ancient mysteries. As you might expect, the subject of the interview was my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real.”

Intrepid Radio
– Many people know co-host Scotty Roberts from his appearances on the History Channel’s “Ancient Alien” program. Since his co-host was in Europe on October 18, 2015, it was just the two of us so it was a very natural back and forth conversation that sometimes dipped into subjects we hadn’t anticipated.

SPIRIT RADIO On August 22, 2015 I was interviewed on 106.1 FM in beautiful Portsmouth, New Hampshire about my book “Underground Military Bases Hidden in North Carolina Mountains” with hosts Willy Hassell and Lynne Nickerson. Once on the website, scroll down to the August 22, 2015 date.


BEHIND THE PARANORMAL – This is a podcast of my July 13, 2015 radio interview on 1240-AM (WOON) out of Rhode Island which serves Providence and Boston. I was interviewed by Paul and Ben Eno, a father and son team, about my two most recent books:  “Cherokee Little People Were Real” and “Underground military bases hidden in North Carolina Mountain.”

Paul Eno (L) began researching the paranormal and ancient history in the early 1970s with some of the true pioneers in the paranormal field.


Coast to Coast AM
– If you’re a “Coast Insider,” you can listen to George Knapp’s July 13, 2014 interview with me about my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real” at

If you’re not familiar with “Coast to Coast AM,” it’s an after dark radio talk show that features a wide range of cutting-edge topics and boasts an audience in the millions.


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pencil“Underground Military Bases Hidden in North Carolina Mountains” ~ There are military bases hidden beneath North Carolina’s mountains that most people have never heard about.  Even those who are aware of facilities under Area 51 in Nevada and other Western States may not be aware of North Carolina’s secret bases. 

Remarkably, those bases are located near well-known tourist attractions in the state:  Great Smoky Mountains National Park, Mount Mitchell State Park, Devil’s Courthouse on the Blue Ridge Parkway and Chimney Rock State Park.  Yet, the underground facilities are so well camouflaged that few people know they exist.

The information about secret bases is mostly from those with military, law enforcement and high security backgrounds plus citizens who have stumbled upon evidence.  The magazine-style book also features lots of photos and maps that go along with the testimonies.

pencil“Cherokee Little People Were Real” ~ I wrote this book to help preserve a unique bit of American history that was about to disappear forever.  The book features testimonies of men who discovered ancient little tunnels, small skeletons and even a child-size skull with all its wisdom teeth when they were working on early construction projects at Western Carolina University in Cullowhee, NC.  Discoveries also were made at old moonshine and mining sites south of the campus. The book features lots of photos, including one of an intriguing face on an ancient metal oval. Other area mysteries – Judaculla Rock, Judaculla Giant and Bigfoot – are included.  Discovery sites are clearly pointed out on maps. 

pencil“Tangible evidence of Jesus left behind for us to find”~ This was written for those who would like proof of Jesus beyond what is recorded in Christian Bibles.  It is intended to be a bridge between scholarly researchers and scientists and most of the rest of us.  The writing style deliberately is condensed and to the point for easy reading.  There are plenty of photos, art and graphics to help bring the information to life. I call it a picture book for adults because there are visuals on nearly every page.

These books are available through Amazon and
City Lights Bookstore in Sylva, NC at

A brief bio . . .

In addition to editing this website, I’ve worked for two major metropolitan area newspapers as a writer, columnist, artist, Sunday magazine editor and feature editor.  On the side, I’ve written magazine articles and six books.

My career includes working for a Fortune 100 company coordinating art and printing for talking children’s books.  In that capacity, I worked directly with many creative teams including those at Marvel Comics, Golden Books, Mr. Rogers, Berenstain Bears and Steven Spielberg’s “ET” book staff.

I’ve also worked for the world’s largest private printing company, an air pollution control agency for a major city; a community college and I did the advertising for eight successful political campaigns.



Sky Ships Over Cashiers
P.O. Box 742
Cashiers, NC 28717