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Editor’s Corner

Mary Joyce, website editor

Here is a list of topics
in this section of the website. Just scroll down to what might be of interest to you.

         1)  Personal comments
         2)  YouTube videos of some of my presentations
         3)  Podcasts of some of my radio show interviews
         4)  Information about my three most recent books
         5)  My brief bio



NEW PODCAST - On January 13, 2017, I was a guest on “The Cosmic Switchboard” radio show in Australia with host James Bartley.  Scroll down to the Podcast section to learn more and to hear the interview.

Did government force cancellation
of Travel Channel series?


In March 2016, I was interviewed by the Travel Channel about the secret underground military base beneath The Great Smoky Mountains National Park.  The interview was to be included in an episode of “Mysteries at the National Parks.” 

Originally, the episode was to be broadcast in the fall of 2016, then it was moved to early 2017.  Now the entire second season of the series has been cancelled.
Obviously, season one must have done well or they wouldn’t have filmed shows for a second season.  Now I’m left wondering if the Travel Channel was “encouraged” to drop the series because there are so many things happening in the National Parks that the government simply doesn’t want the public to know about. 
In considering this conspiracy angle for the cancellation, here are some other titles for “Mysteries at the National Parks” episodes: “Nazi UFOs,” “Ape Man and Aliens” and “Portals to the Underworld.”

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Click on the underlined headings to watch the videos.

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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW – This is the first time Robert of Ohio talks publicly about his venture into a vast and secret underground facility beneath Edwards Air Force Base in California.  It drastically changed his life.  After that, he had unexpected and revelatory conversations with Astronaut Buzz Aldrin and Henry Kissinger who at that time was National Security Advisor for the Nixon administration.


EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW - This is a true story of two kids who grew up on Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio and got their hands on some magical metal from the UFO that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.

They didn’t just see or touch the metal; they tested the magical metal in many inventive ways.  What they discovered has been their secret since 1957.  Now, 59 years later, “Jill” has decided it’s safe to share the most memorable adventure of her life.


– This February 4, 2016 Internet TV interview turned into a wonderful back and forth conversation with the host, Hillary Raimo. If you’ve heard or watched any of my other interviews where I’ve talked about UFOs, Bigfoot and Cherokee Little People then you might want to skip to the 20-minute mark.  That’s the where the conversation began to go in many different directions perhaps because Hillary is spiritual, a psychic and also has a degree in psychology.

CRYSTAL KIDS TV - Though this show is for young people, it is not lightweight entertainment.  The creator and host, Natalie-Marie Hart, has been delving into topics of global concern on her own radio show since she was 11 years old. By the time she was 13, which was in 2014, she started her own Internet TV program on the Conscious Consumer Network (CCN). The young Canadian writes, edits and produces her shows.


In preparing for this interview, Natalie-Marie spent a week studying the Sky Ships over Cashiers website. As a result, this January 26, 2016 interview touched on at least 20 different subjects. Young people should be encouraged to watch this interview because it demonstrates how just one young person can impact the world.

Northern Ireland interview
- On September 2, 2015, I was interviewed by James Swagger, host of Capricorn Television which is a live Internet TV show out of Northern Ireland.  His co-host Heather Osborn joined us from Pennsylvania.  We talked about secret underground military bases and, of course, Little People.

Australian interview – Thanks to Skype, I was interviewed on July 23, 2015 by Australian Peter Maxwell Slattery (R) about a variety of topics.  We started with postings from the Global Links section of this website and then moved on to secret underground military bases, UFOs, our latest Bigfoot investigation, a hologram of Jesus and the Jesus family burial tomb.

Tangible evidence of Jesus – I gave this lecture at City Lights Bookstore in Sylva, NC on December 7, 2014.  The 38:19 video was taped by Beck Horne.

Cherokee Little People Were Real –This presentation was given at the Henderson County Heritage Museum in Hendersonville, NC on November 8, 2014.  The 38:12 minute video was taped by the museum.

Skyfishing for UFOs in Western North Carolina – This 2:08 minute video is about one method of catching UFOs with your camera.  It was produced by Beck Horne.

Mary Joyce on the base at Pisgah – In this video, I talk about a secret underground military facility beneath the Balsam Ridge in Western North Carolina. It was taped in 2010 at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada by Miles Johnson, a documentary filmmaker from Great Britain. This is version two because the first one mysteriously disappeared from the Internet. 

Sky Ships and Cosmic Spirituality – This is an hour long presentation Evelyn Gordon and I made at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada in 2010.  It is the largest UFO conference in the world.

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Click on the underlined headings to listen to the shows.


The Cosmic Switchboard – On January 13, 2017, I was a guest on James Bartley’s show which is based in Australia. He’s very knowledgeable and we covered a lot of topics.  If you’ve heard me talk about Cherokee Little People, you may want to jump to the 5:50 minute mark where I talk about Little People who still live in Eastern Tennessee.  After that we talk about Bigfoot, underground facilities and an Isis camp in North Carolina.


Beyond the Strange – This interview was recorded on November 13, 2016 with host Dave Cruz who is based in Napa Valley, CA.  Because of the length of the show, the starting times for the segments are listed below so you can skip the introduction and commercials.  A few topics talked about in each segment are included.

Segment 1 (5:53) – For the first time on air, I talked about how my interest in secret underground bases and UFOs started. 
Segment 2 (33:30) – The focus was on the different kinds of Little People, plus giants.
Segment 3 (1:03:12) – The theme was secret underground facilities including those beneath the Denver Airport, Dolce, NM and the mountains of North Carolina.
Segment 4 (1:34:40) –I talked about the Jesus family tomb, physical descriptions of Jesus and his travels with his great uncle, Joseph of Arimathea.


The Higherside Chats – The podcast of this San Diego-based radio show was posted on September 6, 2016. The next day I learned the show has an international audience when I began receiving emails from European listeners.

The host, Greg Carlwood, is a knowledgeable host who keeps his shows flowing smoothly. We talked about a variety of subjects.

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Spirit Radio – The Paranormal Experience
– This is a popular program on WSCA 106.1 FM radio based in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.  The two hosts, Lynne and Willy, and I talked about two subjects never before presented on any radio show:
(1) our website’s new video about two kids who secretly tested Roswell UFO material, and
(2) a recently revealed ancient race of Little People who still live in Eastern Tennessee.

After that, I gave an update on our Bigfoot DNA testing; talked about concerns regarding the CERN Hadron Collider; and presented a new witness report about a power plant that may be fueling hidden underground military facilities. The conversation begins at the 5:40 minute mark.


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The Fringe Radio Show
– I was on Salt Lake City’s popular talk radio station (KTKK-630 AM) on April 2, 2016 with host Pat Daniels. We started talking about evidence of life on Mars NOW and then moved on to Bigfoot, hoaxers, underground facilities and aliens.


Far Out Radio
– On March 4, 2016, I was a guest on Scott Teeters’ live radio show out of Lake Placid, Florida.  We covered a variety of topics:  holograms, Project Blue Beam, President Carter’s use of a clairvoyant and the real story of President Lincoln’s birth.

Below are links to two other “Far Out Radio” shows I have been on with Scott.

Far Out Radio - On July 27, 2015, Scott and I talked about my book “Underground Military Bases Hidden in North Carolina Mountains.”  

Far Out Radio
–On May 11, 2015, Scott and I talked about my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real” plus we discussed the sad reality of educational institutions, including the Smithsonian Museum, covering up or denying evidence that doesn’t fit the established view of history. In the last segment of the program we talked about UFOs.


Unknown Origins Radio – This December 3, 2015 show proved to be an interesting three-way conversation with hosts Mark Johnson and Bruce Pearson about multiple topics.  I was introduced 14 minutes into the show and for the next 10 minutes we talked about Islam in light of the San Bernardino massacre that occurred the night before. Then we moved on to discussions about Cherokee Little People and the Sky Ships over Cashiers website. 

Bruce, with his military background and 30 years as an investigative journalist, was especially interested in the second hour of the show when we talked about secret underground military bases.

Ancient Mysteries on the Air - On August 5, 2015, I was on the program with host Jim Harold who has a personal interest in so many ancient mysteries. As you might expect, the subject of the interview was my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real.”

Intrepid Radio
– Many people know co-host Scotty Roberts from his appearances on the History Channel’s “Ancient Alien” program. Since his co-host was in Europe on October 18, 2015, it was just the two of us so it was a very natural back and forth conversation that sometimes dipped into subjects we hadn’t anticipated.

SPIRIT RADIO On August 22, 2015 I was interviewed on 106.1 FM in beautiful Portsmouth, New Hampshire about my book “Underground Military Bases Hidden in North Carolina Mountains” with hosts Willy Hassell and Lynne Nickerson. Once on the website, scroll down to the August 22, 2015 date.


schrader Darkness Radio - On July 31, 2015, I was interviewed by host Dave Schrader about secret underground military bases and an ongoing Bigfoot investigation.

Dave has turned his Twin Cities program into the number one paranormal radio talk show in the United States.  He also is a regular substitute host on “Coast to Coast AM,” which has an audience of more than three million.


BEHIND THE PARANORMAL – This is a podcast of my July 13, 2015 radio interview on 1240-AM (WOON) out of Rhode Island which serves Providence and Boston. I was interviewed by Paul and Ben Eno, a father and son team, about my two most recent books:  “Cherokee Little People Were Real” and “Underground military bases hidden in North Carolina Mountain.”

Paul Eno (L) began researching the paranormal and ancient history in the early 1970s with some of the true pioneers in the paranormal field.


Coast to Coast AM
– If you’re a “Coast Insider,” you can listen to George Knapp’s July 13, 2014 interview with me about my book “Cherokee Little People Were Real” at

If you’re not familiar with “Coast to Coast AM,” it’s an after dark radio talk show that features a wide range of cutting-edge topics and boasts an audience in the millions.


big pencil Books I've Written . . .

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pencil“Underground Military Bases Hidden in North Carolina Mountains” ~ There are military bases hidden beneath North Carolina’s mountains that most people have never heard about.  Even those who are aware of facilities under Area 51 in Nevada and other Western States may not be aware of North Carolina’s secret bases. 

Remarkably, those bases are located near well-known tourist attractions in the state:  Great Smoky Mountains National Park, Mount Mitchell State Park, Devil’s Courthouse on the Blue Ridge Parkway and Chimney Rock State Park.  Yet, the underground facilities are so well camouflaged that few people know they exist.

The information about secret bases is mostly from those with military, law enforcement and high security backgrounds plus citizens who have stumbled upon evidence.  The magazine-style book also features lots of photos and maps that go along with the testimonies.

pencil“Cherokee Little People Were Real” ~ I wrote this book to help preserve a unique bit of American history that was about to disappear forever.  The book features testimonies of men who discovered ancient little tunnels, small skeletons and even a child-size skull with all its wisdom teeth when they were working on early construction projects at Western Carolina University in Cullowhee, NC.  Discoveries also were made at old moonshine and mining sites south of the campus. The book features lots of photos, including one of an intriguing face on an ancient metal oval. Other area mysteries – Judaculla Rock, Judaculla Giant and Bigfoot – are included.  Discovery sites are clearly pointed out on maps. 

pencil“Tangible evidence of Jesus left behind for us to find”~ This was written for those who would like proof of Jesus beyond what is recorded in Christian Bibles.  It is intended to be a bridge between scholarly researchers and scientists and most of the rest of us.  The writing style deliberately is condensed and to the point for easy reading.  There are plenty of photos, art and graphics to help bring the information to life. I call it a picture book for adults because there are visuals on nearly every page.

These books are available through Amazon and
City Lights Bookstore in Sylva, NC at

A brief bio . . .

In addition to editing this website, I’ve worked for two major metropolitan area newspapers as a writer, columnist, artist, Sunday magazine editor and feature editor.  On the side, I’ve written magazine articles and six books.

My career includes working for a Fortune 100 company coordinating art and printing for talking children’s books.  In that capacity, I worked directly with many creative teams including those at Marvel Comics, Golden Books, Mr. Rogers, Berenstain Bears and Steven Spielberg’s “ET” book staff.

I’ve also worked for the world’s largest private printing company, an air pollution control agency for a major city; a community college and I did the advertising for eight successful political campaigns.





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